My guest on this episode is Katherine Gibson, a fiercely creative thinker on the relationship between post-capitalism and consciousness. With Julie Graham, she is co-author of a number of books, including The End of Capitalism (As We Knew It), and A Postcapitalist Politics.
Katherine is an economic geographer at Western Sydney University, and founded the ‘Community Economies Collective’, which is a project that involves both academics and communities in theorizing and practicing new economic visions.
In our conversation, we explore:
14 min ~ Do societies create individuals, or do individuals create societies? How can we think through this complex interaction?
17 min ~ What role does self-transformation play in economic transformation?
27 min ~ the role of committed practice in structural change - both of consciousness, and economies.
27:15: “Being something different involves practicing it.”
32 min ~ When we talk about ‘self-transformation’, what are we transforming ourselves for? Why transform, if not only to become better economic subjects?
38:30 ~ What is ‘ontological reframing’, and what does ontology have to do with politics and economics?
50:36 ~ What’s the relationship between national-scale policy like basic income with individual self-transformation? Can these two strategies support one another?